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#21 User is offline   Eve 

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Posted 20 January 2007 - 01:42 PM

View PostSacred Profane, on Jan 17 2007, 02:42 PM, said:

His voice isn't fading either, it's been gone since 2001.

*nods*

as about smokers being losers...don't think so. I'd rather call them weak. as I noticed most of people start smoking as teens mostly going with the flow and doing the same what other friends or older people do for not looking as an outsider or being poorer with the experience of smoking. Maybe I'm wrong..dunno. Anyways I hardly met people who started to smoke in their 20s...

btw. the more he smokes the sooner his voice will be more fucked and sooner the band will hopefully split! ;)

np:Big Country-In a big country =D

This post has been edited by Venus: 20 January 2007 - 01:48 PM

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Posted 25 January 2007 - 12:52 PM

his voice is not fading...it s just that he doesn't seem to take vocals seriously as of now


and to smoke "because my voice this way is better" is a silly excuse.
he smokes because he's nervous and shy and needs to hide behind a smoke curtain that s it.
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Posted 25 January 2007 - 02:07 PM

grapes:
and to smoke "because my voice this way is better" is a silly excuse.

:coffee: Elton Jhon would disagree with you... as he has been known to make that same statment on more then one occasion :bye:

This post has been edited by villeismyhero: 25 January 2007 - 02:09 PM

these eyes are bleeding
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 01:31 AM

View Postgrapes, on Jan 25 2007, 03:52 AM, said:

his voice is not fading...it s just that he doesn't seem to take vocals seriously as of now


and to smoke "because my voice this way is better" is a silly excuse.
he smokes because he's nervous and shy and needs to hide behind a smoke curtain that s it.


I totaly agree
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#25 User is offline   grapes 

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Posted 26 January 2007 - 10:11 AM

View Postvilleismyhero, on Jan 25 2007, 02:07 PM, said:

grapes:
and to smoke "because my voice this way is better" is a silly excuse.

:coffee: Elton Jhon would disagree with you... as he has been known to make that same statment on more then one occasion :bye:

i don't happen being a eltohn john fan, sorry
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Posted 26 January 2007 - 09:03 PM

I agree with Sami and grapes but he still needs to get it under control
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#27 User is offline   villeismyhero 

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Posted 29 January 2007 - 07:04 PM

View Postgrapes, on Jan 26 2007, 05:11 AM, said:

View Postvilleismyhero, on Jan 25 2007, 02:07 PM, said:

grapes:
and to smoke "because my voice this way is better" is a silly excuse.

:coffee: Elton Jhon would disagree with you... as he has been known to make that same statment on more then one occasion :bye:

i don't happen being a eltohn john fan, sorry


You don't have to be a fan to know the guy can sing :sorry:
these eyes are bleeding
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:31 PM

found this in the web:

Smoking kills both smokers and their voices. Countless scientific reports have established the causal connection between tobacco smoking and cancer of the mouth, throat, lungs, and esophagus. The relative risk of developing cancer of the larynx is doubled in those who smoke more than 20 cigarettes a day. Alcohol and tobacco appear to act synergistically to elevate this risk still further.

It is not the nicotine in tobacco which causes cancer. Tobacco smoke is dark with tar -- a mixture of polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons that is markedly carcinogenic. The heat of the smoke in the throat is dangerous as well. Pipes and cigar smoking are not harmless substitutes for cigarettes, since they too cause cancer of the mouth and throat.

In the tissues of the respiratory tract, cigarette smoke provokes effects similar to those of inflammation: redness, swelling, increased mucus production, and thickening of the surface lining or mucosa. Both the smoke particles and the heat of the inhaled fumes appear to damage the mucosa. Interestingly, unfiltered marijuana smoke causes even greater irritation to the throat and trachea than does tobacco smoke.

A laryngologist can recognize smokers just by the typical appearance of their nose and throat: nicotine staining of the nasal hairs, dry throat, dry swollen vocal cords, and tenacious secretions. Singers who smoke have a harsh breathy voice and a loss of clarity in their upper range. Women who smoke may suffer from polyps on their vocal cords and severe degeneration, polyps which have the appearance of big balloon blisters. Persons with chronic smoking-related inflammation often develop leukoplakia, or white patches on the lining of the throat, a known precursor of cancer.

Smoking also reduces normal breathing capacity. The decrease in air flow due to bronchial constriction impairs vocal performance, and such organic changes to the respiratory tract cannot be overcome by heroic singing technique alone! Smokers cannot expect to produce a clear ringing pianissimo that will reach the far corners of a hall. Obviously, very few singers of the classical repertoire choose to smoke. Some rock and pop singers do use smoking to create a characteristic vocal quality that fits this repertoire. Some women find that deepening their normal vocal range is well suited to a blues or soul sound. The cost of this choice is high, however. Emphysema, bronchitis, recurrent throat infection, and sometimes cancer have brought numerous singing careers to an early and disquieting end.

The damage to vocal cords may not completely heal even after the smoking has ceased. Mild swelling may take six to nine months to resolve and the more significant inflammatory lesions may require surgery. Smoking is a major cause of refractory vocal nodules, since constant irritation in the throat prevents them from healing. Even with surgery there is no guarantee of recovering a desirable singing voice.

Singers who perform in smoke-filled clubs may also suffer some of the same effects. When it is not possible to avoid such situations, non-smoking performers should compensate for them by increasing their water intake and going out for fresh air between sets.

Finally, all serious singers learn how to give meticulous care to their complete vocal instrument, i.e. to both vocal cords and throat. Such attention is usually rewarded many times over. With appropriate care, the gift of voice and song may indeed endure the whole life long.

Françoise P. Chagnon is the Director of the Voice Lab at the Montreal General Hospital
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Posted 29 January 2007 - 08:59 PM

Its dreadfful to think that Villes beauiful voice is being put through this!
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Posted 30 January 2007 - 03:49 PM

:spiteful: Every man is his worst enemy!!! :spiteful:
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Posted 08 February 2007 - 05:03 PM

its very fucking day for ville and sorry about that words ok :(:(:(
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